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		By: Bento Bako Weekly: Best Manga of 2010		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 12:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] only Tokyopop manga I read this year aside from the OEL Labyrinth series (which was mediocre) and Deadman Wonderland (which was OK, but failed to grab me). But it&#8217;s beautiful and a must read for Natsuki Takaya [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] only Tokyopop manga I read this year aside from the OEL Labyrinth series (which was mediocre) and Deadman Wonderland (which was OK, but failed to grab me). But it&#8217;s beautiful and a must read for Natsuki Takaya [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Jade		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Kris, between him and the craziness of the battle system, it&#039;s good to know it&#039;s worth sticking through. I love the art style! And...umm...sorry for derailing the conversation into the land of video games. Let me try to tie it in:

Contrasting what you said about the hero in TWEWY with Ganta in Deadman, I don&#039;t foresee the same sort of personality changes ever coming in this series. Maybe Ganta will learn how to deal a little bit better, but I think his personality is presented at its peak from the get-go. The author sees him as a decent guy who doesn&#039;t wish anyone any specific harm, but it&#039;s just not someone I want to get to know. I don&#039;t see him growing as a human being, I only see him just reacting a little better to future stimuli as plot demands.

I think that sums up my problem with a lot of comic and manga characters these days. The white hat hero is seen as lame, so we get this endless procession of jaded bystanders. They feel a little bad that they can&#039;t get across the street to stop that rape, but oh well, it&#039;s human nature for people not to care about each other, they tell themselves. Biomega, for as much of a train wreck as volume three was had refreshingly heroic heroes motivated to do heroic things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Kris, between him and the craziness of the battle system, it&#8217;s good to know it&#8217;s worth sticking through. I love the art style! And&#8230;umm&#8230;sorry for derailing the conversation into the land of video games. Let me try to tie it in:</p>
<p>Contrasting what you said about the hero in TWEWY with Ganta in Deadman, I don&#8217;t foresee the same sort of personality changes ever coming in this series. Maybe Ganta will learn how to deal a little bit better, but I think his personality is presented at its peak from the get-go. The author sees him as a decent guy who doesn&#8217;t wish anyone any specific harm, but it&#8217;s just not someone I want to get to know. I don&#8217;t see him growing as a human being, I only see him just reacting a little better to future stimuli as plot demands.</p>
<p>I think that sums up my problem with a lot of comic and manga characters these days. The white hat hero is seen as lame, so we get this endless procession of jaded bystanders. They feel a little bad that they can&#8217;t get across the street to stop that rape, but oh well, it&#8217;s human nature for people not to care about each other, they tell themselves. Biomega, for as much of a train wreck as volume three was had refreshingly heroic heroes motivated to do heroic things.</p>
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		By: New manga, Chiba video, “Death Note murders” solved &#124; Anime Blog Online		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New manga, Chiba video, “Death Note murders” solved &#124; Anime Blog Online]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] (Manga Life) Kate Dacey on Crimson Cross and Tale of a White Knight (The Manga Critic) Kristin on vols. 1 and 2 of Deadman Wonderland (Comic Attack) Sean Gaffey on vol. 17 of Excel Saga (A Case Suitable for Treatment) Leroy [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] (Manga Life) Kate Dacey on Crimson Cross and Tale of a White Knight (The Manga Critic) Kristin on vols. 1 and 2 of Deadman Wonderland (Comic Attack) Sean Gaffey on vol. 17 of Excel Saga (A Case Suitable for Treatment) Leroy [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Kris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Haha, I&#039;m not sure about the psychology of whiny characters.  I haven&#039;t thought about it that deeply, though I probably should.
But as for The World Ends With You (which is one of my absolute favorite games ever)....  He gets better.  He&#039;s only like that for most of that first week.  He&#039;s a dynamic character who grows and changes throughout the game.  He starts out with nothing to fight for, which is the problem.  He&#039;s so apathetic, he doesn&#039;t care about anyone, he has no reason to bother.  But he bonds with Shiki, and later has to fight FOR her.  The kid is totally being used, so he has reason to bitch about his situation.  But once he gets a reason to fight and a reason to live beyond...just being annoyed with his situation...it gets better.  The game is really amazing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, I&#8217;m not sure about the psychology of whiny characters.  I haven&#8217;t thought about it that deeply, though I probably should.<br />
But as for The World Ends With You (which is one of my absolute favorite games ever)&#8230;.  He gets better.  He&#8217;s only like that for most of that first week.  He&#8217;s a dynamic character who grows and changes throughout the game.  He starts out with nothing to fight for, which is the problem.  He&#8217;s so apathetic, he doesn&#8217;t care about anyone, he has no reason to bother.  But he bonds with Shiki, and later has to fight FOR her.  The kid is totally being used, so he has reason to bitch about his situation.  But once he gets a reason to fight and a reason to live beyond&#8230;just being annoyed with his situation&#8230;it gets better.  The game is really amazing.</p>
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		By: New manga, Chiba video, &#8220;Death Note murders&#8221; solved &#171; MangaBlog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[New manga, Chiba video, &#8220;Death Note murders&#8221; solved &#171; MangaBlog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] (Manga Life) Kate Dacey on Crimson Cross and Tale of a White Knight (The Manga Critic) Kristin on vols. 1 and 2 of Deadman Wonderland (Comic Attack) Sean Gaffey on vol. 17 of Excel Saga (A Case Suitable for Treatment) Leroy [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] (Manga Life) Kate Dacey on Crimson Cross and Tale of a White Knight (The Manga Critic) Kristin on vols. 1 and 2 of Deadman Wonderland (Comic Attack) Sean Gaffey on vol. 17 of Excel Saga (A Case Suitable for Treatment) Leroy [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Jade		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Haha, &#039;It’s hard to pin down why I enjoyed it, and yet have no desire to continue reading it.&#039; sums it up perfectly I think. What you were saying just before...I thinks maybe it&#039;s too close to a run-of-the-mill shonen story. Shiro is a total badass and the prison is incredibly brutal, but it doesn&#039;t matter because the story is really all about juvenile power boys flashing psijunk and chains at each other with their totally kewl powers just like the couple hundred other lameass jaded youth power fantasies floating around.

And as long as we brought up the topic of whiny heroes, I just started playing The World Ends with You and I want to stab that kid in the face sooo many times. I bought the game, I want to experience a crazy urban-fantasy world, I want to take part in heroic battles, but the main character does nothing but whine and moan about how much he doesn&#039;t want to do any of those things! I am so sick of these characters! I buy these games and comics because I&#039;m interested in what&#039;s going on in them, why would I identify with the character with the least interest in doing what I paid to see them do? He&#039;s nothing but jaded and self-absorbed, is that what they think the audience thinks of themselves or lusts over to the complete exclusion of wanting to experience an entertaining story? *ahem* Ok, sorry, I&#039;m done now, haha.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, &#8216;It’s hard to pin down why I enjoyed it, and yet have no desire to continue reading it.&#8217; sums it up perfectly I think. What you were saying just before&#8230;I thinks maybe it&#8217;s too close to a run-of-the-mill shonen story. Shiro is a total badass and the prison is incredibly brutal, but it doesn&#8217;t matter because the story is really all about juvenile power boys flashing psijunk and chains at each other with their totally kewl powers just like the couple hundred other lameass jaded youth power fantasies floating around.</p>
<p>And as long as we brought up the topic of whiny heroes, I just started playing The World Ends with You and I want to stab that kid in the face sooo many times. I bought the game, I want to experience a crazy urban-fantasy world, I want to take part in heroic battles, but the main character does nothing but whine and moan about how much he doesn&#8217;t want to do any of those things! I am so sick of these characters! I buy these games and comics because I&#8217;m interested in what&#8217;s going on in them, why would I identify with the character with the least interest in doing what I paid to see them do? He&#8217;s nothing but jaded and self-absorbed, is that what they think the audience thinks of themselves or lusts over to the complete exclusion of wanting to experience an entertaining story? *ahem* Ok, sorry, I&#8217;m done now, haha.</p>
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		By: Kristin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, but the difference between Ganta and Shinji is that Ganta snaps pretty quickly and grows a pair.  Shinji doesn&#039;t do a damn thing for almost the entire series.  Ganta actually takes action, as fruitless as it is, even while he&#039;s whining and complaining.  Shiro says it herself...he&#039;s a weakling and a loser, but he refuses to give up.  And that redeems him to an extent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but the difference between Ganta and Shinji is that Ganta snaps pretty quickly and grows a pair.  Shinji doesn&#8217;t do a damn thing for almost the entire series.  Ganta actually takes action, as fruitless as it is, even while he&#8217;s whining and complaining.  Shiro says it herself&#8230;he&#8217;s a weakling and a loser, but he refuses to give up.  And that redeems him to an extent.</p>
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		By: animemiz		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 03:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps that is the case then. Still I did write a review vol 1 originally for http://anime.com/Deadman_Wonderland/ and I was quite sold on the manga.

I kinda think that it would appeal to adventure/male readers. After all a lot of Japanese protagonists especially in manga are pretty weak and whiny.. I am thinking Evangelion at this point. &#062;_&#060;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps that is the case then. Still I did write a review vol 1 originally for <a href="http://anime.com/Deadman_Wonderland/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://anime.com/Deadman_Wonderland/</a> and I was quite sold on the manga.</p>
<p>I kinda think that it would appeal to adventure/male readers. After all a lot of Japanese protagonists especially in manga are pretty weak and whiny.. I am thinking Evangelion at this point. &gt;_&lt;</p>
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		By: Kris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You know...I didn&#039;t care for Ganta either.  It&#039;s not that I disliked him.  But I wasn&#039;t attached to him, either.  Yo I&#039;m certainly not attached to.  And Shiro is...too enigmatic at this point (not to mention completely psycho).  The Deadmen just barely get introduced at the end of the second volume.  It may take another volume or two for it to work.  But I&#039;m reading too many other things to bother pursuing it for a &quot;maybe it gets good later.&quot;  
Maybe it just doesn&#039;t go far enough?  Or there&#039;s still too much of a...cutesy isn&#039;t really correct, but it&#039;s not exactly dark and gritty.  It&#039;s hard to pin down why I enjoyed it, and yet have no desire to continue reading it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know&#8230;I didn&#8217;t care for Ganta either.  It&#8217;s not that I disliked him.  But I wasn&#8217;t attached to him, either.  Yo I&#8217;m certainly not attached to.  And Shiro is&#8230;too enigmatic at this point (not to mention completely psycho).  The Deadmen just barely get introduced at the end of the second volume.  It may take another volume or two for it to work.  But I&#8217;m reading too many other things to bother pursuing it for a &#8220;maybe it gets good later.&#8221;<br />
Maybe it just doesn&#8217;t go far enough?  Or there&#8217;s still too much of a&#8230;cutesy isn&#8217;t really correct, but it&#8217;s not exactly dark and gritty.  It&#8217;s hard to pin down why I enjoyed it, and yet have no desire to continue reading it.</p>
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		By: Jade		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s really strange, I just wasn&#039;t feeling this either and have absolutely no idea why. From your review, it sounds like you loved it and I agree on all points, but in the end, there&#039;s something imperceptibly wrong with it. I so, so totally do not care about the main character Ganta one bit, but I can usually get a lot more mileage out of series with MCs that I can&#039;t stand, so I don&#039;t think that&#039;s it here. Maybe seeing him get anything but the OZ treatment is just too far beyond my willingness to suspend disbelief?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really strange, I just wasn&#8217;t feeling this either and have absolutely no idea why. From your review, it sounds like you loved it and I agree on all points, but in the end, there&#8217;s something imperceptibly wrong with it. I so, so totally do not care about the main character Ganta one bit, but I can usually get a lot more mileage out of series with MCs that I can&#8217;t stand, so I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s it here. Maybe seeing him get anything but the OZ treatment is just too far beyond my willingness to suspend disbelief?</p>
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